Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. Updated: August 30, 2013 . Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. This forensic approach is becoming more common. This was a very small, close knit community and everybody knew everybody and everybodies business. Importantly, though, the DNA results cleared Hoyles of any involvement in Muriels murder. Photo added by Graceti. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. D.S. The Crime Review Group already have the information that I request. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. Thanks again and take care. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer, "Secrecy over 1940 murder as DNA offers new leads", "The unsolved murder of a 12-year-old brutally abused and killed", "Serial Slaying of Pretty Women Has New Scotland Yard Confused", "Detectives link Muriel Drinkwater and Sheila Martin murders", "The chilling tale of a man who bludgeoned his relatives to death with a hammer and paid the ultimate price", "The unsolved murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater and the new suspect identified", "Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Muriel_Drinkwater&oldid=1138738141, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near Advertisement. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. The True Crime Files is dedicated to all things #TrueCrime. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. ", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. Hi. Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! Please let us know how it goes. Muriel was the same age as my Aunt Peggy and they went to Primary school together. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. The police statement that Jones was ruled out is a misleading statement. Find records of Muriel Drinkwater . Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. Norah Irene Bartlett. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', and have uncovered a new prime suspect. In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. Like you I hope there is justice one day for Muriel but sadly as more and more time passes I worry that becomes less likely. Or was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time? The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater (Welsh: Llofruddiaeth Muriel Drinkwater),[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. I am awaiting D.N.A tests to be carried out on Harold Jones family members. Jones was only 15 when he killed eight-year-old Freda Burnell, who'd been sent by her father to buy bird seed from the store where Jones was working. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. But the mystery doesn't end there and the team want to unlock the mystery behind a book belonging to Muriel that turned up in a charity shop decades after her death. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. Regards. Interesting case Christine. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Interesting insights! A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. Hi James. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. . [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. Thank you for the update. 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Her body was eventually found in a nearby lane, but it was the discovery of her handkerchief in the shops shed which saw Jones accused and stand trial for her death. request regarding the unsolved murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater near Swansea in June 1946. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. This true crime happened in Penllegaer Woods on the outskirts of Swansea in 1946. I am making a F.O.I. Another wait and see. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. ~ Christine. Ms Darby says: "He denied killing his relatives at all. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. Thanks again and take care. Hi Neil. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. Will do Christine. First, I was told that South Wales Police werent obliged to say. Muriel Jean Drinkwater Birth unknown Death 1983 Burial. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! Lloyd-Evans told me that he was convinced that a suspect regarding Muriels murder would soon be identified through D.N.A. "If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it.". The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. Muriel's death was known at the time as the Little Red Riding Hood Murder because of the bright red coat she was wearing. Two other specific persons of interest have been put forward. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. Over the years, South Wales Police have fought tooth and nail to prevent me gaining any information under the Freedom of Information Requests Act. This will enable the police to identify Muriels murderer by taking and testing swabs from the perpetrators sons, grandsons, or even great-grandsons. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. He described the search for the clothes that had been taken from the crime scene. However, if it wasnt for Victor Penaluna and D.C. Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police I would have been none the wiser about the Muriel Drinkwater murder. Evernote. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . As always you can unsubscribe at any time. A different D.C.I. See link to Jones and other murders. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. Hi Neil You can Google ones in your area or check out Twitter (but I recommend checking their credentials). In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. 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Can you explain please. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. We can also deduce it is a average male because he must have had enough power to dominate a 12 year old girl. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Read about our approach to external linking. I personally think it was someone still in the area from the Second World war. - Listen to The Unsolved Murder of Muriel Drinkwater by The True Crime Files instantly on your tablet, phone or browser - no downloads needed. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. Thank you so much for this detailed update. The D.N.A. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Photo added by Tracey. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. On 27th June 1946 a school girl was walking through countryside on her way home. "I found the original clothing," he said. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. People had forgotten it was there. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. sample from Harold Jones daughter. Her murder became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. 2023 BBC. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. Does his daughter have a son.? This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. She goes to grammar school. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. I appealed that decision and was then informed that as the information I requested was kept in paper format in various locations in South Wales then it would be too costly and time-consuming to check out so the request was denied. 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