All Im saying is know what your buying. cheapest that month or that week. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. chokes and heavy triggers, but the A5 does have speed-loading, Google Analytics sets this cookie to store the traffic source or campaign by which the visitor reached the site. When you continue to use your gun, the shells leave some debris behind that can impact the trajectory of your subsequent shots.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'homesteadandprepper_com-leader-2','ezslot_4',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-homesteadandprepper_com-leader-2-0'); And as time goes on, this debris or dirt accumulates to cause problems further down the line. Affinity 3 ($800 in camo)if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'randywakeman_com-leader-1','ezslot_9',110,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-randywakeman_com-leader-1-0'); Made The element swings nice, good line of sight, smooth action, similar to my SBE2. Boxes, International Addresses, AK, CA, HI, MA, CT, IL, NJ, NY nor DC residents. Everything about this gun is solid and well-engineered. That's why I suggested Miroku shotguns. Though the Weatherby Orion is an excellent shotgun for hunting, it also comes with its problems like other hunting shotguns. ins.style.display = 'block'; the Weatherby Element is one of the better low-dollar inertia guns But you dont need to, especially if youre a weekend shooter or just joined a trap league at the local range. The The Element is an inertia-operated semi-auto that's as attractive as it is affordable. by P&PGunsmith Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:42 am, Post I was very skeptical but I picked up the gun 2 days prior to my shoot and was pleasantly surprised that after 100 rounds everything went off perfectly. Thats a lot of high-volume shooting and a lot of abuse, and the Stoegers have operated flawlessly. Thank you all for the input. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Bud's. dealers, and still sell them for $400? Baffling, Bewildering Inertia Shotgun. Matte finish with synthetic stock. I shotgun, and the price is attention-getting. acquired by Beretta when Beretta acquired Benelli, have run . Anyone experience that or have a solution? How do you break in your shotgun? It is a seven pound autoloader that is essentially maintenance-free. here, is that only Retay packages their shotguns well, in custom The new value of a WEATHERBY ELEMENT shotgun has risen $21.95 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $584.64 . Free Shipping* Layaway Available $523.49 Cash discount Price $539.19 Retail Price Add to Cart Add to Wishlist Factory-equipped choke is an extended Full and fluted for tool free removal. All firearms are shipped domestic ground and an adult signature is required. One thing I have noticed is for these shotguns to function properly, you need to lightly apply gun oil to the action from the start. guns that are worthy of your consideration in 12 gauge, 3 inch But not when feeding into the magazine. It fared far I wish it broke at 5lbs and came with a hard case, nut hey its a gun that can be had on sale for circa $500. Same dimensions as your 870, so you'll be familiar with it. After my experience with their customer service I will be purchasing their rifles over others that I have looked at. seems almost everyone has an inertia action. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. The thing is beautiful and has functioned flawlessly with about 200 shells through it. Pretty happy!! vs. Midland Backpack 12 GA MBP1226. When your gun fails to fire, ensure you point it in a safe direction and wait for some minutes before unloading the firearm. Browning Several shims to adjust the stock. Best of luck, sir, with whatever gun you choose! Click to download a PDF of your Owner's Manual. Doubles are expensive to build. those who don't care to drop close to two thousand dollars to drop a It breaks anywhere from 6.10 to 8.0 pounds. and even though the oil-finished walnut Masai Mara models are not the Are you getting a headache yet? I said great price. 1-1/8 oz. Weatherby Element Upland 12 GA EUP1226PGM. 1. not saying that cz and weatherby don't, but i am partial to beretta and would recommend them to anyone. It was a very soft shooter. problems as well. Beretta does it with their 686 White Onyx. The document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Matte finish. 1) Correct, they are not feeding from the mag tube properly - the cartridge release button will click on it's own. Weatherby, the round Masai Mara safety could use some enlarging as YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. Dec 28, 2018. by codym Sat May 31, 2014 3:45 pm, Post loads in 12 gauge, and the inertia action does very little The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. That would be sweet when hunting Royal City or the Palouse. It is about a quarter pound heavier than the others, Right now, you can get There It is heavy and creepy. by Curious Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:54 am, Post Weatherby assures me they are aware of the problem, and that they have plans to put the forend on a diet. related stiff-loading, often more pronounced in 20 gauge models. It fared far better than some, such as the embarrassing jam-o-matic Breda. This The Elements I have tested handled and shot well, but there is a breaking in period with them. Required fields are marked *. 2003 honda foreman rubicon 500 shifting problems. Retay Arms Masai Mara is the new kid on the block. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. The Franchi Affinity is essentially the Stoeger version of the inertia action, with the mainspring under the forearm, around the magazine tube . 3. Read on!if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'homesteadandprepper_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_2',137,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-homesteadandprepper_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); When it comes to problems that affect firearms, there seems to be a mixed reaction depending on individual gun use experience. this group, with a locking hard case, five choke tubes, shims, a snap But a majority of the shotguns made there function properly, and can include gorgeous walnut with a high-gloss finish, which emulates premium-brand shotguns. the only complaint I have is that replacing the butt pad requires major surgery on the stock. Just $1 per month . ins.style.height = container.attributes.ezah.value + 'px'; Benelli Ethos and the Benelli SBE III, which added a little Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Minelli stocks, Cervellati recoil pads, and Megaline hard cases. Many of the inertia-driven autoloaders that came out of that country were junk, to be frank. In summer you can shoot trap, skeet, sporting clays, and five-stand with the synthetic over/under. WEATHERBY SA-459 TURKEY 12 GAUGE 3IN BLACK SEMI AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN . Absolutely flawless right out of the box, and have not had one FTE, FTF, anything, even with the cheap Winchester promo shells. recoil pad than the rest of the crop as well: it does not have a Franchi Affinity is essentially the Stoeger version of the inertia Features include three chokes (four in 12-gauge models, which include an extended modified/long range steel tube), a fiber-optic front sight, drop and cast adjustment shims, and a chrome-lined bore. which costs nothing more to produce, is still left out of all other NO problems! I used an 870 12Ga for years. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. Ive always owned a Remington my 1st was a 870 Wingmaster that took a good beating during the duck hunting seasons. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". If you fail to adhere, it could lead to severe damage to you and your firearm. wacky profile like the Franchi pad, or the curved profile of the to address recoil as compared to gas actions, and even properly From pump-action to semi-auto, you'll find shotguns from top brands like Mossberg, Remington, Benelli and more. If you are set on a gas gun remington 1100 /1187 could be an economical choice, but in my opinion you cant go wrong with a beretta 390/391.Good luck. This cookie is set by Hubspot whenever it changes the session cookie. made. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". >>Is the Element recoil pad fairly soft?<<. are aware that the so-called inertia action goes back to the Sjgren My only complaint is the trigger. . Essentially your buying a Browning and not paying for the Browning name. But we all know there is nothing perfect out there. hasn't done much with their A5 Sweet Sixteen beyond the one What I noticed first it has a rotating bolt like some of the Italian made guns. Not in the doublegun shotgun world. Or maybe a Franchi O/U? Also, you could help those around you with some of these tips to improve their Weatherby Orion hunting experience. In terms of the complete package, with all the Matte-finished metalwork and stock. Set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin, this cookie is used to record the user consent for the cookies in the "Advertisement" category . vanish just as quickly as they appear, and any semblance of parts and JavaScript is disabled. __utmb cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. Multiple camo patters available. be easily replaced, it is a decent gun, functionally. The Weatherby Element is an inertia-operated, semi-automatic shotgun that delivers smooth and clean performance round after round. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. The fit and finish isnt what youll get with a Benelli, but for the money, the M3500, 3000, and 3020 are all great values. Retay Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. What does B.C. It is heavier and handles heavier, but will cushion the recoil better. other guns are plastic in these areas, with visible mold lines. I have shot the Element in 20 gauge (we picked up a few "Canadian Upland Specials" that Weatherby was nice enough to make up for us north of the border) and they do . anyone who wants to make an inertia gun can do so, without licensing I appreciate any and all opinions. Some of todays Turkish-made guns can compete with models built in Europe, Japan, and the U.S. These guns have proven themselves in the dove fields of Argentina where sub-par semi-autos will die an ugly death. It is easily the best-presented of Its tough to make a shoddy gas-operated autoloader, because there are so many more moving parts than in inertia guns, and the the Viper G2 delivers. Active rebates (10) Winchester Warm Up Rebate. Benelli inertia guns, the action was essentially ignored until the Not so much. It outperformed other more expensive gas and inertia guns. quick release trigger group, etc. The action is great, pull is nice and I like the look with the gray and black. Armsan of Turkey (the Element line / ATA NEO) and another (18i It's Weatherbys Inertia operating gun. The Weatherby 18i is a reliable performer and built tough to withstand the punishing conditions of the uplands and wetlands. Except for the fact that CZ doesn't actually make shotguns. S1200 imported by Savage Arms. The Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. The It is essentially the ATA Neo, but with Weatherby's added quality We stock the best shotguns for sale online. all of the FINISH OPTIONS KEY FEATURES USER-ADJUSTABLE STOCK FIT Each ELEMENT includes spacers and shims to help tune stock It does not store any personal data. I hate when guys complain about the cost of better guns when they have 5,6,7,8.junky ones rather than 1 or 2 really good ones. by JWP58 Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:57 am, Post So here is something I just thought about. Get a free LifeCard 22LR polymer pistol when you purchase a Pivot rifle. Added some blue loctite, torqued it down tight and havent had a problem since. Remington 870 Express SuperMag Hardwoods Camo 26". The Rio blue steel 1 1/4 ounce load has 85 pellets. (starting price, $2799, according to Benelli). I was looking for my first clay gun at my LGS and came across a Weatherby Element in 20 gauge. opinion: the Weatherby Element clearly is the bargain of the batch. machined alloy trigger group and alloy trigger guard . This problem occurs when the next cartridge fails to feed into the firearm chamber, which can be caused in several ways. If you want a gun that will fire every time ou pull the trigger no matter the conditions and no matter the ammo you have then this is the gun. My biggest concern was the cycling as I use 1150 fps reloads. by ezzy333 Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:47 pm, Post The Beretta Group offers Stoeger, Available in 12ga., 3" and 3.5" chamberings. Send the gun to a professional gun repairer to get it fixed. Stoegers sometimes dont cycle shells reliably, and its because shooters dont take the time to wipe away the heavy packing oil they arrive in. The SA-08 (or ATA CY) is a pleasure to shoot in 12 gauge compared to most others I have ever had at my shoulder so the 20 should barely make you aware that you pulled the trigger. Though this problem is minimized in modern guns, it is still possible, so watch out for it. After shooting this could not be happier, handles great, shoots great and all my kids can fire it. Yet, that little ball-dent bolt At 6.75 pounds, the 12-gauge Element I tested was light enough to carry comfortably in the field but brought enough heft that it wasn't painful to shoot for an extended 5-stand clays session. 1. by rat Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:51 pm, Post Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I have heard the CZ's are a quality gun and a couple of my friends like them. Its an ideal turkey, waterfowl, or upland gun that offers weight-forward balance, a tang-mounted safety, and the flexibility of five extended choke tubes, which makes swapping chokes in and out much easier. View the Choke Tube Guide HERE. Available in 12 and 20ga., 3" chambering. var ins = document.createElement('ins'); For the upland hunter, lighter weight and walnut is an Run patches soaked in bore cleaner/copper solvent through until patches come out clean. Brad Fitzpatrick Currently 12 gauge only, the 2019 3-1/2 They didnt cycle shells with any reliability, and some of them were built with cheap metal. Despite the minor niggles, the Weatherby Element is a desirable, perfectly reliable shotgun, and the price is attention-getting. No problems what so ever. CZ/Huglu Shooter..912, 912 Tom Knapp Edition, 920, Canvasback Deluxe, 452 FS, and Trek Domone SL 6 Disc Bicycle Rider, 2fewdaysafield. Gun Value Conditions explained: New in box - 100% condition in unopened box. not particularly good and can be a real headache to attempt to absorbed into the Beretta Group where it currently resides. var cid = '2857184049'; When you notice a slamfire, remove the magazine immediately. At one time, shotguns built in Turkey had a pretty awful reputation. Out of Stock. shoots great, looks good, and easy to disassemble. by jetjockey Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:33 pm, Post ins.dataset.fullWidthResponsive = 'true'; Masai Mara is the newest to the American market, having just been These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. I have a CZ o/u and have never had a problem with it. What But that stigma has largely gone away from Turkish-made shotguns. Very Happy. Weatherby Element Matte Black 20ga 3in Semi Automatic Shotgun - 28in. Save up a few more dollars, and get a quality used O/U with choke tubes. The field version carries an MSRP around $1,000. and beretta puts out good products. The Affinity is a good gun: if they Run 2 dry patches through the barrel. Happily, it is just as reliable. . by jwnissen Sat May 31, 2014 9:47 am, Post bolt handles that didn't like to stay in place, and extractor The Orion has a fat fore-end, but it doesnt affect the weight of the gun (7 pounds) much, but does offer a better grip. I've owned both the 930 and the Element, and they handle very differently. I know most older guns can't shoot steel shot because the barrels wont hold up. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. It works only in coordination with the primary cookie. by jetjockey Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:39 pm, Post Home / Products tagged "weatherby element problems . Affinity. The Weatherby Element has a bit longer overall length, to be expected with a conventional inertia gun that typically has a longer receiver than gas guns. It would be nice to get a choke tube case that actually works but that is a minor problem. So, it would be best if you dealt with it immediately. It seems like its the age old question, which is better Ford, Dodge or Chevy??? the nagging issues, inertia (or kinematic) autoloading shotguns are High gloss finished, walnut stock. . The leading cause of a misfire or failure to fire is the light firing pin, and you can detect this by the presence of a shallow indentation of the primer when you remove the misfired cartridge from the chamber. I know the cons, but I am looking at the Element fairly hard. Weatherby Element Upland 12 GA EUP1226PGM. You can service the firearm by dismantling it and applying oil to its part. Every firearm has its strengths and weaknesses, and gun reviews only show the strength. This gun has never failed to fire even when other guns froze up. The Fast steel 1 1/8 ounce load has 80 pellets. I have seen a few of the weatherbys and don't seem to be made as well as thier o/u's or higher end rifles. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. Good The answer is Chevy, by the way. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. consistent size but a little rougher finish. If you want the Element to cycle skeet loads, you should run some turkey or heavier waterfowl shotshells through the gun first. least heard of the Benelli Click, the Benelli Thumb and walnut models start at $990 MSRP. The generic Then gun was fairly light and easy to shoulder. How by Devilscreekw Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:31 am, Post many people like about recoil-operated inertia shotguns is the American Armory. cap, and so forth. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. Available in 12 and 20ga., and a 22" barrel. The __hssrc cookie set to 1 indicates that the user has restarted the browser, and if the cookie does not exist, it is assumed to be a new session. ins.dataset.adClient = pid; With a single tubed gun that shoots 3 shells, you have to pick between a tight choke that forces you to hold your first shot,or a more open choke that hurts on long shots. guess, but the several Affinity models I've tested have been solid Weatherby Element Matte Black 12 Gauge 3in Semi Automatic Shotgun - 26in - The Element semi-auto shotgun brings together the signature fit and finish of a Weatherby with their "inertia-operated" action. inch models are shipping right now. The Weatherby's reputation for QC and customer service are factors in this. and the Element takes standard Browning Invector style choke tubes. This cookie is set by the Google recaptcha service to identify bots to protect the website against malicious spam attacks. The control layout is sensible and there are no rough edges or ill-fitted pieces. Solid Miroku's, Berettas, and Brownings can be had for about $1K on the used market. This cookie is set by Google Analytics and is used to distinguish users and sessions. Use one hand to hold the buttstock behind the receiver tang of the shotgun and your other hand on the forend. Weatherby Element The Element requires a breaking in period before taking it afield. Four-way adjustable comb. The only problem is that whoever was packing the key into the choke tube case didnt care because it doesnt fit so I got a bunch of little plastic pieces fall in my lap while opening, But I dont use the case so I dont make a big deal but it is still a part of the product so I said it. Element wins. var container = document.getElementById(slotId); Retay Masai Mara is the best-built of these four shotguns, with a by jwnissen Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:52 pm, Post
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